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		<title>By: CJ Marsicano</title>
		<link>http://www.motokoaoyama.com/2008/01/12/actually-its-always-been-about-the-music/#comment-208</link>
		<dc:creator>CJ Marsicano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2008 21:25:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Hanachan: &lt;em&gt;I’m not quite sure what you mean here with “could latch on in at least a similar way in spite of things.” You mean start a wave of Japanese imports? And “in spite of things” mean in spite of a language barrier?&lt;/em&gt;

Again, that's a story for another post (well, one of the ones I alluded to before) but you're just starting to scratch the surface there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Hanachan: <em>I’m not quite sure what you mean here with “could latch on in at least a similar way in spite of things.” You mean start a wave of Japanese imports? And “in spite of things” mean in spite of a language barrier?</em></p>
<p>Again, that&#8217;s a story for another post (well, one of the ones I alluded to before) but you&#8217;re just starting to scratch the surface there.</p>
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		<title>By: Hanachan</title>
		<link>http://www.motokoaoyama.com/2008/01/12/actually-its-always-been-about-the-music/#comment-207</link>
		<dc:creator>Hanachan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2008 18:13:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;As for any “generalizations”, I didn’t say “all J-Pop fans hate American pop music”, so you’re safe there.&lt;/i&gt;

I just re-read your point and I think I misunderstood it the first time. That generalization is all over the place, though, so I think I just saw that and thought "Oh, here goes another 'Wota hate American pop!' statement."

&lt;i&gt;Don’t even get me started on Hannah fucking Montana (or as I call her, the Anti-MoMusu) - that is yet another post entirely.&lt;/i&gt;

I'm actually planning on doing a post comparing Disney Channel and H!P and why they're &lt;i&gt;similar&lt;/i&gt;, so I don't completely argee with you here. But I'll wait to duke it out until I write that post. :)

&lt;i&gt;P.S.: You’re right, no act could ever do what the Beatles did. Rad’s point, or at least my version of his point, is that MoMusu could latch on in at least a similar way in spite of things. Again, that’s another post entirely.&lt;/i&gt;

I'm not quite sure what you mean here with "could latch on in at least a similar way in spite of things." You mean start a wave of Japanese imports? And "in spite of things" mean in spite of a language barrier?

I'd be really interested in reading Rad's point of view on both yours and Vulpi's post. I wonder why he hasn't responded yet...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>As for any “generalizations”, I didn’t say “all J-Pop fans hate American pop music”, so you’re safe there.</i></p>
<p>I just re-read your point and I think I misunderstood it the first time. That generalization is all over the place, though, so I think I just saw that and thought &#8220;Oh, here goes another &#8216;Wota hate American pop!&#8217; statement.&#8221;</p>
<p><i>Don’t even get me started on Hannah fucking Montana (or as I call her, the Anti-MoMusu) - that is yet another post entirely.</i></p>
<p>I&#8217;m actually planning on doing a post comparing Disney Channel and H!P and why they&#8217;re <i>similar</i>, so I don&#8217;t completely argee with you here. But I&#8217;ll wait to duke it out until I write that post. <img src='http://www.motokoaoyama.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p><i>P.S.: You’re right, no act could ever do what the Beatles did. Rad’s point, or at least my version of his point, is that MoMusu could latch on in at least a similar way in spite of things. Again, that’s another post entirely.</i></p>
<p>I&#8217;m not quite sure what you mean here with &#8220;could latch on in at least a similar way in spite of things.&#8221; You mean start a wave of Japanese imports? And &#8220;in spite of things&#8221; mean in spite of a language barrier?</p>
<p>I&#8217;d be really interested in reading Rad&#8217;s point of view on both yours and Vulpi&#8217;s post. I wonder why he hasn&#8217;t responded yet&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: CJ Marsicano</title>
		<link>http://www.motokoaoyama.com/2008/01/12/actually-its-always-been-about-the-music/#comment-205</link>
		<dc:creator>CJ Marsicano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2008 01:28:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@asforoneday: I guess you don't exist to Vupli, LOL. 

@Hanachan: P.S.: You're right, no act could ever do what the Beatles did. Rad's point, or at least my version of his point, is that MoMusu could latch on in at least a similar way in spite of things. Again, that's another post entirely.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@asforoneday: I guess you don&#8217;t exist to Vupli, LOL. </p>
<p>@Hanachan: P.S.: You&#8217;re right, no act could ever do what the Beatles did. Rad&#8217;s point, or at least my version of his point, is that MoMusu could latch on in at least a similar way in spite of things. Again, that&#8217;s another post entirely.</p>
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		<title>By: CJ Marsicano</title>
		<link>http://www.motokoaoyama.com/2008/01/12/actually-its-always-been-about-the-music/#comment-204</link>
		<dc:creator>CJ Marsicano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2008 01:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Henkka: Hear, hear. Feel free to do that post! I'd love to see your point-of-view on this. 

@Hanachan: That's very possible regarding what Vulpi was referring to. As for any "generalizations", I didn't say "all J-Pop fans hate American pop music", so you're safe there. Don't even get me started on Hannah fucking Montana (or as I call her, the Anti-MoMusu) - that is yet another post entirely. 

@Vulpi: No offense, but do you even comprehend the points I'm trying to make? From the looks of your response, it looks like you don't. Also, don't mistake my using more common musical examples to describe any song on a MoMusu or other J-Pop release when I write a review (and I don't just write the reviews for a J-Pop audience, I write them for a more general audience - Stuck In A Pagoda is a music blog, not just a J-Pop blog) with seemingly idle comparisons between new and older artists.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Henkka: Hear, hear. Feel free to do that post! I&#8217;d love to see your point-of-view on this. </p>
<p>@Hanachan: That&#8217;s very possible regarding what Vulpi was referring to. As for any &#8220;generalizations&#8221;, I didn&#8217;t say &#8220;all J-Pop fans hate American pop music&#8221;, so you&#8217;re safe there. Don&#8217;t even get me started on Hannah fucking Montana (or as I call her, the Anti-MoMusu) - that is yet another post entirely. </p>
<p>@Vulpi: No offense, but do you even comprehend the points I&#8217;m trying to make? From the looks of your response, it looks like you don&#8217;t. Also, don&#8217;t mistake my using more common musical examples to describe any song on a MoMusu or other J-Pop release when I write a review (and I don&#8217;t just write the reviews for a J-Pop audience, I write them for a more general audience - Stuck In A Pagoda is a music blog, not just a J-Pop blog) with seemingly idle comparisons between new and older artists.</p>
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		<title>By: asforoneday</title>
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		<dc:creator>asforoneday</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2008 00:32:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow.. I usually ignore the videos and just get the albums and never buy into the "looks" of Morning Musume.  I must not exist to Vulpi because Momusu is all about their image and never about their music, amirite?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow.. I usually ignore the videos and just get the albums and never buy into the &#8220;looks&#8221; of Morning Musume.  I must not exist to Vulpi because Momusu is all about their image and never about their music, amirite?</p>
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		<title>By: Hanachan</title>
		<link>http://www.motokoaoyama.com/2008/01/12/actually-its-always-been-about-the-music/#comment-202</link>
		<dc:creator>Hanachan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jan 2008 21:23:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The music is number one to me as well, but I have a feeling that Vulpi was referring to how they are presented. No matter how good the music is, they are  promoted mainly by their looks and images. That is the definition of an idol.

And I hate the generalization that all J-pop fans hate American pop. Anyone who knows me knows that I love Disney Channel, pretty much for the same reason I love H!P-I love cheesy pop music. Sure, a lot of really interesting, catchy music comes out of H!P, but at the end of the day, it's a large group of Asian girls singing bubblegum pop. (Well, they stuff that sells really well is. I can't really say that about Yuki Maeda or Yuko Nakazawa)

And I think comparing any new act becoming popular to the Beatles' breakthrough is inaccurate. Nothing will ever be like that again. Not even BSB or *Nsync were like that, as they didn't revolutionize popular music and change and insipre it for decades to come.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The music is number one to me as well, but I have a feeling that Vulpi was referring to how they are presented. No matter how good the music is, they are  promoted mainly by their looks and images. That is the definition of an idol.</p>
<p>And I hate the generalization that all J-pop fans hate American pop. Anyone who knows me knows that I love Disney Channel, pretty much for the same reason I love H!P-I love cheesy pop music. Sure, a lot of really interesting, catchy music comes out of H!P, but at the end of the day, it&#8217;s a large group of Asian girls singing bubblegum pop. (Well, they stuff that sells really well is. I can&#8217;t really say that about Yuki Maeda or Yuko Nakazawa)</p>
<p>And I think comparing any new act becoming popular to the Beatles&#8217; breakthrough is inaccurate. Nothing will ever be like that again. Not even BSB or *Nsync were like that, as they didn&#8217;t revolutionize popular music and change and insipre it for decades to come.</p>
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		<title>By: Henkka</title>
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		<dc:creator>Henkka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jan 2008 20:30:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mmm, though I did find Vulpi's post a good read that had its good points, I gotta say I agree with you here, CJ. Wanting to defend my stance on the subject, I actually started writing a post in reply too after reading Vulpi's article, but abandoned the idea as I failed to really put my thoughts into words as intelligently as I'd liked and I would've only succeeded in looking like a fool. But yeah, what I'm trying to say is that for me, too, it is very much more about the music than anything else. Maybe I'm in the minority here, but I think when talking about recording artists or bands, no matter if they're ugly old men with silly beards or pretty Japanese girls in their teens, the music is NEVER secondary to looks or anything else for that matter. I simply would not be a fan of Morning Musume or Hello! Project in general if I thought the music was poor, no matter how interesting the personalities or beautiful the girls were.

I thought this was a well-written post, very deserving of the "recommended reading" at Int'l Wota. Nicely done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mmm, though I did find Vulpi&#8217;s post a good read that had its good points, I gotta say I agree with you here, CJ. Wanting to defend my stance on the subject, I actually started writing a post in reply too after reading Vulpi&#8217;s article, but abandoned the idea as I failed to really put my thoughts into words as intelligently as I&#8217;d liked and I would&#8217;ve only succeeded in looking like a fool. But yeah, what I&#8217;m trying to say is that for me, too, it is very much more about the music than anything else. Maybe I&#8217;m in the minority here, but I think when talking about recording artists or bands, no matter if they&#8217;re ugly old men with silly beards or pretty Japanese girls in their teens, the music is NEVER secondary to looks or anything else for that matter. I simply would not be a fan of Morning Musume or Hello! Project in general if I thought the music was poor, no matter how interesting the personalities or beautiful the girls were.</p>
<p>I thought this was a well-written post, very deserving of the &#8220;recommended reading&#8221; at Int&#8217;l Wota. Nicely done.</p>
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		<title>By: International Wota &#187; Blog Archive &#187; [Blogs] Stuck in a Pagoda About Morning Musume and Music</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jan 2008 19:58:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Vulpi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vulpi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2008 16:42:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First of all, I have a name. Even Ray figured that out after a few months. I try to make it a little obvious, but I guess it still doesn't get through to some people. :/

Moving on... Oh, please. I don't know if you've noticed, but America and Japan are different countries! That means that the music they tend to put out is also completely different. What a concept, right?! Throughout this entire post, you have never once compared Momusu to other Japanese artists, preferring to stay in your little comfort zone of rock. It is not convincing at all.

About the title: Rad is notoriously over-enthusiastic about friggin' everything. He has, like, three J-pop groups that he knows more than just a little about, and each one is ZOMG THE BEST THING TO EVER COME OUT OF JAPAN IN THE ENTIRE HISTORY OF THE COUNTRY. You just can't be like that, period.

Sorry it offended you, but at the same time? Nah, I don't actually mean that. :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First of all, I have a name. Even Ray figured that out after a few months. I try to make it a little obvious, but I guess it still doesn&#8217;t get through to some people. :/</p>
<p>Moving on&#8230; Oh, please. I don&#8217;t know if you&#8217;ve noticed, but America and Japan are different countries! That means that the music they tend to put out is also completely different. What a concept, right?! Throughout this entire post, you have never once compared Momusu to other Japanese artists, preferring to stay in your little comfort zone of rock. It is not convincing at all.</p>
<p>About the title: Rad is notoriously over-enthusiastic about friggin&#8217; everything. He has, like, three J-pop groups that he knows more than just a little about, and each one is ZOMG THE BEST THING TO EVER COME OUT OF JAPAN IN THE ENTIRE HISTORY OF THE COUNTRY. You just can&#8217;t be like that, period.</p>
<p>Sorry it offended you, but at the same time? Nah, I don&#8217;t actually mean that. <img src='http://www.motokoaoyama.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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